Re: core list going public

["Chahine M. Hamila" <mch at chaham dot com>]

Mohammed Elzubeir a *crit :

>
> They _should_ have a right on 'core's decisions. Core is there to serve
> the public, not itself.. so in a sense, not giving them that window
> would be cheating them out of their right that we so have expressed.

Youth's idealism;) hehe:)

>
> > For what benefit? Let's not talk out of ideologies but be pragmatic. Think of
> > what you would gain out of it, and what would you lose.
>
> It helps in two main ways:
>
> 1. Allows observers to see how progress is made (incentive for
>    engagement in the project by seeing activity)

activity on the subcore level is ok, but by making core's debates public, you're
giving us the same freedom of movement as you would by making all pentagon's
debates public. Of course many of what we're saying can go public, but it would
pretty much undercut our decisions, and precisly debates like this very one,
making it a field for public relations instead of efficient management. You have
to seperate both.

>
> 2. Gives the volunteers the window to watch how the project is being
>    managed, and even give some input.

Management and PR are two very different things, that don't always mix well (PR
can say things very different from ugly things that might be said inside).
And the "give some input" is what you don't want to get unless you ask for it on a
case basis. I'm telling you, you're opening a can of worms here, more minds is not
necessarily better ideas. More minds is a sooq w dallaal if it exceeds a certain
threshold. We already have problems making it at four sometimes, how would you
like to make it with the added noise of tens of others?
If we want some question to be public, we have public mailing lists for that.

>
>
> Of course that is not to say that the 'core' list would not be
> moderated.. but there is always a chance someone has a brilliant idea
> that none of us had..

your thing would collapse before it would ever happen. I am not saying there
aren't good ideas outside. But one good idea emerges out of zillions of screams of
nonsense. Mark my words, if you do that, you'll get more people telling you what
should be done than people actually doing, and in fact, no more people actually
doing.

> it's worth allowing that person to epxress their
> opinion before a decision is made.

in Utopia or in the USSR, yes. Not in the real world of project management:)

Salaam,
Chahine