On Tuesday 03 January 2006 10:46, Meor Ridzuan Meor Yahaya wrote: > Dear All, > After re-reading the reference below and some thinking, I think here > is my conclusion about hamza : > Traditionally, there is only one type of hamza, and that normally has > a chair that comes with it, either alef, waw, or yeh. It make perfect > sense. The hamzah looses it's chair under the condition mention in the > article, which resulted the isolated hamza and hamza over tatweel as > we can see it visually. However, the chair is there, it is just that > normally people don't write it. The example that given ealier, like > shai-un , which seems like isolated hamza, which in turn actually, the > hamza looses it's chair. The position of this hamza relative to it's > chair, depends on the mark. If it has kasra, the hamza sits below the > chair. However, hamza that lost it's chair alway sits "on a tatweel". > What do you guys think. Does that make sense? Is this the answer or > what? > That needs a bit of thinking. I suggest we take some to think again about the whole thing. > There is one little thing that might need some consideration. There is > one occurance on Madinah Mushaf of hamza sitting on top of small alef, > in sura 2, aya 72. The above rules might explains it. I was wondering > initially, why this aya uses hamza on small alef, why not just plain > hamza isolated? From the above rules, I think, if the hamza were > suppose to be there, then the chair should be there as well. However, > since the chair has been deleted, I don't know for what reason, and > the hamza still needs a chair, then they decided that small alef is > the one to be the chair. That is just my theory. Anyone can confirm > this? How is this aya being written in other mushaf? > Mushaf Al-Haramain (from Al-Shamarly printing house, the very first to print the Qur'an which gained a lot of respect from Hoffaaz that they call it Omdaat Al-Masahef "The boss of Masaahef. If you must :-") has the this written with a SmallAlef as a chair. Attached is a screenshot from Mushaf Al-Haramain. But my Mushaf doesn't have the SmallAlef. Anyway, the most accurate and correct one (w.r.t Rasm Science) would be Mushaf Al-Haramain. The past tense verb of this word is درأ as can be found in the Moagam. (Dal,Reh,Alef,HamzaAbove) which suggests that the Hamza is really on a chair(Alef) not isolated. That explains why the Hamza here has a SmallAlef as a chair. The thing is that the chair of Hamza here is an Alef which got removed from Rasm as you said and had been replaced by a SmallAlef (which proves my point that SmallAlef is not a mark logically attached to the previous letter and has nothing to do with it). But why it's not there on my Mushaf? Maybe it's another alternative or maybe it's a Rasm error in my Mushaf. I think we should see other Masahef and consult a Rasm science scholar. -- Mohammed Yousif Egypt "قال قائل منهم إني كان لي قرين. يقول أءنك لمن المصدقين. أءذا متنا وكنا تراباً وعظاماً أءنا لمدينون. قال هل أنتم مطلعون. فاطلع فرءاه في سواء الجحيم. قال تالله إن كدت لتردين. ولولا نعمة ربي لكنت من المحضرين" (من القرءان الكريم)
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