??: More on KDE's Status

["Fayez Alhargan" <alhargan at kacst dot edu dot sa>]

Congratulations, KDE  Arabic moved from 33rd rank  
to the 17th rank as of 29-12-2004
http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/KDE_3_3_BRANCH/toplist.php

Can we leave the silly arguments and instead work on the challenge
of completing the translation to 100%.
The challenge is to move above the Italian language (ranked 6) and
to put the  Arabic language in the 6th rank within two weeks (i.e. by
15-1-2005).

Let us be constructive not destructive.
Let us be helpful not an obstacle.
Let us concentrate on achieving our goals to make the Arabic language in the
top 10 ranks in the OSS space.
Let us make 2005 the year of the Arabic language in OSS.

Regards
Fayez Alhargan

-----الرسالة الأصلية-----
من: Munzir Taha [mailto:munzirtaha at newhorizons dot com dot sa] 
تاريخ الإرسال: 17 ذو القعدة, 1425 11:57 م
إلى: doc at arabeyes dot org
نسخة: alhargan at kacst dot edu dot sa; alkanhal at kacst dot edu dot sa
الموضوع: Re: More on KDE's Status

On Yau al-Thulatha 16 Thu al-Qi`dah 1425 8:08 pm, Nadim Shaikli wrote:
> --- Mohammed Elzubeir <elzubeir at arabeyes dot org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 17:12 +0300, Munzir Taha wrote:
> > > > 3. I will no longer accept proxied commits to the CVS, unless there
> > > > is a formal agreement between Arabeyes (done through Core) with a
> > > > different entity.
> > >
> > > Interesting! Didn't we reach that agreement before and you asked us do
> > > it like this? So from now on I can't commit and say on behalf of such
> > > and such from my team? Only arabeyes is allowed proxied commits to KDE
> > > main but we are not?
> >
> > Yes and I am revoking this 'agreement'.
>
> Ah... I don't think this is something we ought to do and most certainly
> not _now_.  I highly suggest you take this up with 'core' to further
> clarify the matter.  I know alot has been said and there are raw nerves
> maybe on both ends and to be completely honest and frank 99.9% of what
> I read is shear silly and sophomoric at best.



> > I believe it is better for me to work directly with translators who are
> > interested in translating KDE. As the coordinator, I am more interested
> > in the concept and philosophy of volunteerism than having n thousand
> > strings translated by someone who has no conception of Open Source
> > software. In other words, I would rather have 2 volunteers who
> > understand Open Source and do it for the love of it than 10 paid
> > translators who are not involved in anything Open Source related.

> I think we are all in this "boat" and this was noted many times before.
> Having an established agreement with a said entity does preclude one
> from simply changing their mind midstream - again, we are a professional
> group who would like to uphold professional conduct.  If there is a
> change of heart then this topic needs to be brought-up in the context
> of a defined deadline (ie. "the policy will change starting with 3.3
> release" or similar) to have a rational open debate about the topic.

Nadim, congratulations for the voice of wisdom!

--
p.s. Remember, volunteering is the best choice! I'd hate to invoke
clause 12.A of section 543 of your employment contract; which if you
are not familiar with, allows us to appoint volunteeres.
                             *Quoted From doom 3*


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