Re: Arabeyes -- a critique

[Arafat Medini <arafato at gmail dot com>]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:24:27 +0300, Samy Al Bahra <samy at kerneled dot org> wrote:
> Arafat Medini wrote:
> 
> > So you need to know how to ;)
> 
> Exactly. :)

???

> 
> > Well if I recall the projects you mentioned where a little bit
> > different (dragonflybsd anyone?) I read some of Linuss book about his
> > biography I don't recall Linux being a one man project...
> 
> Linux was actually originally a one man project (it was not until months
> after his first release that other contributors started rolling in).
> 

the kernel alone was at some time a one man project not Linux as we
know it today...
Linus is a mix of the kernel and the gnu tools and that's not a one
man project, But a bar bone semi-kernel only running on one type of
machines couldn't do anything anyway...
The Linux kernel itself was heavily influanced by minix.
Linux is we know it today was never a one man project, sure even
katoob is a one man project but if you would want to make a an open
office like suite from it you could never do this with one person.

> 
> > Still it will not solve the problems we have for it alone, sure it's
> > good, I said this many times but saying THIS IS the answer is not
> > right IMHO...
> 
> It is a step towards the right direction.
>

Ah ok this sounds far better....
 
> > well I am bored too and I could answer on everyone of your entries...
> 
> You also have not provided one answer. Please read up on the
> technologies OGG provides relative to MP3. The patch/diff system was not
> always there, look it up. FreeBSD ports, yes,
> http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/.
>

sure you can start netpicking and tell me OGG has this OGG has that
over MP3, but truth is  that if the core technology is there imitating
it with better extensions does not mean that it's an innovative
technology in my eyes. Beagle is innovative for eg. cz there is
nothing like beagle in the market. (I don't like beagle btw)

> Python? It's not just a "scripting language", it provides a lot of power
> and functionality. Where is the argument? DragonFlyBSD? Yes,
> http://www.DragonFlyBSD.org, read up on the technologies the project
> will bring in. qemu? Yes, google it, the translation technologies it
> uses are much different than what is used in the commercial world.
> 

I know this too, sure Pythong is not "only" the common scripting
language one would think of, still, take a look at ruby and as
mentioned before adding some new extensions does not make a product in
my eyes totally radically innovative or new. That's a normal process,
imitate and add...
 
> 
> What does this have to do with the core argument, innovation?

You were asking to take a look at the evolution of Gecko (mind
EVOLUTION & GECKO) from mosaic and netscape, and I told you the whole
story in a nutshell...

  
> .NET is an implementation from Microsoft. Mono is an implementation of
> this, or...an emulator.

That's false. Do you know what implementation means btw? 

Salam

Arafat