Re: Mushaf Al-Haramain

[Mete Kural <metekural at yahoo dot com>]

Basically, I'm trying to understand whether the Al-Shamarly printing house actually printed the Qur'an before the - also Egyptian - Bulaq printing house printed the Qur'an. Bulaq printed the Qur'an in 1924, which the QuranComplex edition pretty much is identical with. Did Al-Shamarly print a Qur'an before 1924? As far as I know, the 1924 printing by Bulaq was the result of a substantial project sponsored by King Fu'ad to correct rasm errors that crept into Qur'an masahif during the Ottoman era and before to the original masahif rasm. As far as I observe they did not go all the way to correct all rasm errors and I don't know why they removed many alefs (and replaced them with small alef) but still left certain other alefs intact, even though they also do not exist in the oldest masahif. Anyways, I was just curious whether they copied some things from a previous printing by the Al-Shamarly printing house and that's why I asked whether Al-Shamarly printed  the Qur'an before 1924 or not? If so, can you send me some more scans from this first printing made by Al-Shamarly so that I can compare it with the Bulaq printing?

Thank you,
Mete

----- Original Message ----
From: Mohammed Yousif <mhdyousif at gmx dot net>
To: General Arabization Discussion <general at arabeyes dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:57:09 AM
Subject: Re: Mushaf Al-Haramain

On Tuesday 03 January 2006 19:45, Mete Kural wrote:
> Salaam Mohammed,
>
> From: Mohammed Yousif <mhdyousif at gmx dot net>
> <<Mushaf Al-Haramain (from Al-Shamarly printing house, the very first to
> print the Qur'an which gained a lot of respect from Hoffaaz that they
> call it Omdaat Al-Masahef "The boss of Masaahef. If you must :-") has the
> this written with a SmallAlef as a chair.
> Anyway, the most accurate and correct one (w.r.t Rasm Science) would be
> Mushaf Al-Haramain.
>
>
> You mention that Al-Shamarly printing house is the first to print the
> Qur'an. But you don't mean that Mushaf Al-Haramain is the first Qur'an to
> be printed right? Since obviously Mushaf Al-Haramain is a hand-written
> mushaf which would have to be printed by an offset printer and that
> technology did not exist in early 20th century. So if Mushaf Al-Haramain is
> not the first mushaf to be printed, why do you think it would be the most
> accurate and correct one? Was Mushaf Al-Haramain hand-written many years
> before it was first printed? Was it hand-written before the 1924 Egyptian
> printing of the Qur'an?
>


Well, no.
Mushaf Al-Haramain is just a fancy name that is not important.

What is important is the publishing house itself, it's among the the first 
ones in Egypt (Well, _the_ first if you must) to publish Masahef with that
_scale_.

It used to print Masahef for even Al-Azhar itself.

I'm saying that it would be the most accurate because of the quantity of
respect and recognition this house gets from most Hoffaaz and Islamic
organizations (Even The Qur'an Complex in Saudi Arabia admires this house).

Anyway, I don't know why you quoted me on this unimportant issue. It was
only suggested by me that it _would_ be the most accurate because of the
reasons I gave but not neccessarily _the_ most.

Moreover, any Mushaf that contains the basic Qur'an text using the Othmani
Rasm wouldn't be considered bad and could actually be certified by any
Qur'anic Organization. This is because the original collected Mushaf, after
all, didn't have even dots :-)


-- 
Mohammed Yousif
Egypt

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