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Re: Arabeyes -- a critique

Looks like my e-mail didn't go through.


Arafat Medini wrote:

You have to nurture yourself, best would be when I come to you with a
milk bottle after you wrote some code hein???

It's hard to nurture yourself when you don't know how to.
It's also a loss for Arabeyes when you apply your knowledge in un-needed areas. The mentor programme ElZubeir is advocating does not only address short-comings of innovation, but AE's efficiency and scalability as an organization.

Well sure laziness is a problem yes, definetely. Still the projects
you are mentioning are not big scale projects like ours. No one could
manage gnome or KDE alone for eg. and so for Arabeyes. And that's the
problem if we want to be bigger (and that's what Elzubair wants) then
we need far more people.

FreeBSD? NetBSD? Linux? OpenBSD? GCC? Please do your research, AE is a minutiae of OSS relative to these projects. These projects have truly complex problems to deal with, their structure as an organization is an old problem (now go read on Debian's, FreeBSD's, NetBSD's, OpenBSD's and GCC's developer organization).

And again some new burocracy and everyone is happy... But the REAL
work I am asking for it for years doesn't get tackled. If you want to
help be the maintainer of QAC for eg.!

ElZubeir's mentor programme is for developers, not translators. Translators operate under the domain of QAC. If you're not happy with core's speed in handling QAC, I suggest you push for it yourself when you have more time.

Yeah I saw innovation sprakling in the FOSS world, please name to me
ONE and only one innovation in the FOSS world?


In my first e-mail I had several examples, but that didn't go through.

A majority of clustering technology, OGG, patch/diff, CVS, SVN, ARCH, FreeBSD ports, FreeBSD's rcNG, Python, Perl, Ruby and other programming languages, Apache, chroot, FreeBSD jail, HURD, DragonFlyBSD, systrace, OpenBSD's stack-patches, several FreeBSD MAC features, UML, Linux vserver model, qemu, PCAP, BPF, nmap...and I am about bored now.

Firefox? see Opera 

Please read about the evolution of Mosaic to Netscape to Gecko.

Mono? well ... .net

This is an emulator. Apples and oranges? You do not rate innovation of goals in an emulator (all they want to do at the end, *IS* emulate or copy a system), only design and implementation.

what else ? KDEs bloated monstrousity??? 

Yes, and it's other rich features.

Please name ONE innovation, FOSS people are proud to copy things from
the others! I'm saying this not from ignorance but after a long
conversation with Miguel de Icaza.


or ignorance. You are not speaking on facts, but an emotional whiplash.

Yeah I'll write the software and do it for myself and I'll be happy
because me and some 10 others are using it, wonderful...
NO I want an imam in the middle of nowhere in Mauritania to have a 386
pc and use gedit in Arabic then I'll be REALLY proud of myself.

If you don't want to be a developer, don't be. Become a translator. A developer will be expected to have other responsibilities than a translator, as they should.

I'm not a monkey and I'll never become one thanx. 

Monkies act with rationale and logic.

You can contribute to AE in many ways, this ranges from being a developer to being a translator. You are the latter, you are bound to QAC not the mentoring programme ElZubeir announced.

Thank you for the flame. :)