Re: Numerical Inimitability of the Quran (was "Volunteers, Unicode, previous examples and things")

["Mete Kural" <metek at touchtonecorp dot com>]

Salaamun Alaykum Abdalla,

>It is indeed. Another example that comes to my mind is the
>aaya in Surat Al-Kahf that says something like: "They remained
>in their cave for 300 years and nine more." I recall this hints
>to establish a compatability between Hijri and Gregorian (or Julian;
>I honestly forgot.)

300 solar (gregorian) years is equal to rougly 309 lunar (hijri) years. There are more very interesting discoveries about this statement.

>> http://www.mucizeler.com/ing/mmwh/index.htm
>> http://19.org/index.php?id=14,246,0,0,1,0
>> 
>The first site you included gives about most of what I know. Most
>of the printed resources discuss Rashad Khalifa's discoveries (all
>revolve around the number 19). They are also correctional works on
>the points where he (Rashad) lost track and went "astray," as some
>conclude.

Have you been able to check the initial letter counts made by Rashad Khalifa in suras which begin with letters? I was able to verify some of them and the ones that I verified were correct. These include 19 Surat Al-Maryam with K.H.Y.`A.S. initial letters, 20 Surat TaHa with T.H. initial letters, Sura 26, 27, 28, 36, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 50... In regards to suras that have alif as one of the initial letters it is kind of confusing at this point what the correct count really is. It is evident that Rashad Khalifa made some errors in the alef counts as noted by Submission.org (http://www.submission.org/miracle/alif.html and  http://www.submission.org/miracle/alif2.html). That is one subject that I would like to further research.

>It's worth mentioning that the magic number Rashad depends on is
>composed of two numbers that have unique qualities. For instance,
>9 always retains its identity.
>
>1*9 = 9
>2*9 = 18, 1 + 8 = 9
>3*9 = 27, 2 + 7 = 9
>...
>123456 * 9 = 1111104, 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 4 = 9
>6789*9 = 61101, 6 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 1 = 9
>838292*9 = 7544628, 7+5+4+4+6+2+8 = 36, 3 + 6 = 9

Wow this is very interesting. I didn't know 9 had this property. This seems like a good divisibility by 9 test also.

>The best sources are sources that discuss i'jaaz al-quran in general.
>There are some people working on the numerical inimitability, but they
>tend to keep their work private because the field is young and it can
>mislead many people. If I am not mistaken, I recall the submitters (Quranist
>who follow Rashad Khalifa - www.submission.org) resorted to deleting one
>aya from the Quran to "fulfill" their numerical recipes. Others accepted
>most of Rashad's discoveries and tried to correct what was not accepted.

Those are the last two ayas of sura 9 (128 and 129). I don't believe that these ayas were removed by Rashad Khalifa just because they didn't fit numerical recipes. There is more historical discussion from the Hadith in regards to this topic (various hadiths attributed to Ali and others).

>As Allah says in Surat Maryam: Wa yazeedu Allaha allatheena ihtadaw huda...
>(And Allah increases the guidance of those who accepted the Guidance...).

Also it is interesting that aya 74:30-31 mentions..

74:30
'alayhaa tisa'ata 'ashar
74:31
wa maa ja'alnaa asbaaha n-nari illa malaaikata wa maa ja'alnaa 'iddatahum illa fitna lilladhiina kafaruu liyastayqina alladhiina uutu l-kitaab wa yazdaada alladhiina aamanoo iimaana wa laa yartaaba alladhiina uutu l-kitaaba wa l-mu'minuuna...

74:30 (Khalifa's translation)
Over it is nineteen.
74:31
We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers..

74:30 (Yusuf Ali's translation)
Over it are Nineteen.
74:31
And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers..

74:30 (Pickthal's translation)
Above it are nineteen.
74:31
We have appointed only angels to be wardens of the Fire, and their number have We made to be a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve; that those to whom the Scripture hath been given may have certainty, and that believers may increase in faith; and that those to whom the Scripture hath been given and believers may not doubt..

74:30 (Shakir's translation)
Over it are nineteen.
74:31
And We have not made the wardens of the fire others than angels, and We have not made their number but as a trial for those who disbelieve, that those who have been given the book may be certain and those who believe may increase in faith, and those who have been given the book and the believers may not doubt..

The above verses hint to that numerical inimitability by way of number 19 will increase the faith of the believers and remove doubts from hearts that Quran is the divine word of God. What do you think about these verses?

>Wishing you and your family peace and good health.

Thank you. I wish you the same as well.

Salaam,
Mete

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