Re: Some Translation issues we discussed.

[Mohamed Magdy <mohamed dot m dot k at gmail dot com>]

> ***Abbreviations:
>
> He recommanded translating the non abbbreviated name to arabic, and
> then abbreviating the translation using arabic rules.
> e.g. IP
> Internet Protocol = بروتوكول الإنترنت
> IP = ب.إ
> بروتوكول  is a proper arabic word
> However, he said we do have a responsabiltiy to explain the new terms
> we are generating. AFAIK Qamoose is not easily accessed from the main
> website, and is not using our technical dictionary. We need to revive
> it, and we need an accessible dict server, with easy clients for
> windows and linux etc.
Good , if this is fine with all of you, I can(or anyone) start a page on 
the wiki to do the job of explaining these new terms until we figure 
something better. lets say 'Introduced Words' or 'New Words' ... your 
choice ... can we say that ب.إ is the first abbreviation gets introduced 
to Arabic? or not yet?
> ***أمر/مصدر:
>
> Translate it just how it is done in English. It is not appropiate to
> use مصدر when there is an action to be invoked. However, we use مصدر
> when it is for explanation, not initiating an action. 

Thanks for clearing that up , I agree...

> Now the issue is when to know the word is used for explanation or for
> initiating an action. In which case, it is best to just use the verb,
> because it is less ambiguous than using the noun for the user.
Exactly
> *** Some words we discusses:
>
> These are some of the words we discussed that I can remember off the
> top of my head. Other words will make it to essential.po, we agreed
> that he is going to make some changes to it and deliver it to me
> sometime soon. He is very good at understanding the terminology we use
> in computers and clever at finding equivalents.
> * mute = صه
> In places where it is appropriate, like a button in media player. I
> think it is neat and short. It is used in "warsh" riwaya of Quran, the
> one that was written by Said Sherifi (In Algeria).
I don't like using صامت for this word, because I use it for 'silent' ... 
  I think صه is the imperative form .. right? if so .. what is the 
other forms? say .. how to translate 'The man at the corner is muted.' ?

> * Accessibility = إتاحة
But what about 'available'?



> He also strongly suggested translating the words in lexicons, as I
> described in the wiki here [2], I think we should make use of this
> extensively. It may be more work, but it usually guarantees
> non-redundant translations.

I asked in the 'page discussion' and waiting for an answer...

Mohamed