AW: Coordinator Expectations

["Arafat Medini" <lumina at silverpen dot de>]

Salam

I also don't think Hicham was dictating something, if you have some
psycholigical instabilities then please go to a doctor.

cheers

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: doc-admin at arabeyes dot org [mailto:doc-admin at arabeyes dot org] Im Auftrag
von Youcef Rabah Rahal
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2003 09:54
An: doc at arabeyes dot org
Betreff: Re: Coordinator Expectations

Salam Hicham,

I don't think Nadim is dictating anything. Nadim is suggesting a plan of

work, and I think this is what is expected to happen in a an Open Source

Community, based on volunteer work but also and aboveall on democracy.

I think Nadim's email is right to the point and it would have been
better to 
discuss it if you had any comments rather than take it personally.

I also share Nadim's point of view and I WANT to work on translation. I 
think, in my humble opinion that the urgent thing to do now is to share
the 
tasks in the very coming days. I don't want to start translating files 
randomly without a precise goal and I think that this point of view is
at 
least shared by Mohamed Aser too 
http://lists.arabeyes.org/archives/doc/2003/January/msg00032.html . I am

sorry to say this, but I am still waiting for your message that you said
you 
will post 
(http://lists.arabeyes.org/archives/doc/2003/January/msg00053.html) and
you 
said also that the start of this week was a deadline to wait for more
people 
and then define people's work. Well, we are almost at the end of the
week 
Hicham ! I think people who'd like to work on KDE are you, Mohamed Aser
and 
I (Maybe also Nuridin Aminagha if I understand by the cvs mail, though
he 
didn't explicitly say it). I think that it will be easy to assign tasks
if 
newcomers will show after we start the work.

OK, this is my point of view and I hope you will discuss it
constructively 
rather than being offended :-) I have no personal issues and this is an
open 
community after all.

Last week there was a one month deadline, a week later is only three 
weeks...

Salam,

Youcef.





>From: Hicham Amaoui
>Subject: Re: Coordinator Expectations
>Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:25:01 +0100
>
>I don't accept that other poeple not working in the tranlsation process

>dictate what I must or not do.
>
>Hicham
>
>Nadim Shaikli wrote:
>>A number of people have asked about the status and future plans of
>>KDE and Gnome translations now that Isam is no longer the coordinator
>>of those projects (Isam should be commanded for building the
foundation
>>on which future work will build upon - he'll still be around for
quickie
>>help and he's promised a procedure document on Gnome soon).
>>
>>In short - here are some important facts,
>>
>>  + Mr. Hicham Amaoui is taking over the KDE   coordination
>>  + Mr. Arafat Medini is taking over the Gnome coordination
>>
>>What does all this mean to you ?  Well it depends on who 'you' is :-)
>>
>>For Hicham and Arafat that means added responsibility and more work
>>(beyond their translation duties - yup, they will continue to
translate
>>and to double-check done work, etc).  Hicham and Arafat are going to
>>be asked the following (ie. they will be expected to ...),
>>
>>  1. Assess current and future capabilities of the people present and
>>     their commitment level (know what volunteers will accomplish and
>>     make a distinction between the guy/gal putting 30-hours aweek vs.
>>     the one putting 2-hours).  This assessment is to be revisited at
>>     least once a month.
>>
>>  2. Set a plan in motion detailing how the intended work will be
>>     completed with the current man-power (or lack thereof).  The
>>     plan is to be revisited and refined once a month.
>>     a. The plan will note priority of files (which ones need to
>>        be translated first)
>>     b. The plan will divide up the work so that if/when people
>>        volunteer they can hit the ground running and know what to
>>        tackle and what not to touch
>>     c. The plan will also note milestones that should be met to
>>        account for the project deadlines (ie. KDE-3.2 or Gnome-2.4
>>        releases, etc)
>>     d. The plan will conclude with a schedule of tasks (broadly)
>>
>>     *NOTE: please have your plans ready within a week so that work
>>            can commence (and tasts divided-up) in earnest.
>>
>>  3. Keep the respective webpages (on arabeyes) upto date with regards
>>     to info and priorities as well as status
>>
>>  4. Status will be sent to the 'doc' list once a month (exact date
>>     to be specified later and it would be ideal to have both KDE
>>     and Gnome coordinators follow the same status dates).  The status
>>     file will be of the following format (to ease reading),
>>
>>       Done past month (Jan 2003 - Feb 2003):
>>       + did this
>>       + did that
>>
>>       Todo next month (Feb 2003 - March 2003):
>>       + finish this
>>       + start on that
>>
>>       Issues/Concerns/Deadlines:
>>       + Need a script for this
>>       + Need CVS account for that
>>       + Deadline: KDE release on May 6, 2003
>>
>>  5. To publicly recruit for their respective projects.  The
coordinators
>>     main tasks beyond planning, executing and formulating a path to
>>     success will be to staff their teams.  This means the
coordinators
>>     will be asked to recruit people to help them (this means they'll
be
>>     expected to post solicitations on various sites for help and for
>>     people's assistance).  Coordinators are also responsible for
>>     motivating their staff and making life interesting for them :-)
>>
>>Hope this clarifies things for those that thought we were off-track
>>(we're not :-) and we all really hope to see more progress due to
>>these upcoming changes.
>>
>>Salam.
>>
>>  - Nadim
>>
>>
>
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