Re: Debian Installer?

[Behdad Esfahbod <behdad at cs dot toronto dot edu>]

On Fri, 21 May 2004, Nadim Shaikli wrote:

> Noted.  I think it would be more productive to stay away from
> harsh/offending language (this only backfires in the future).
> In terms of missing functionality those need to be added in
> (no ifs/buts about it) and in terms of bugs, there have been
> plenty of requests to get feedback (and review the code), so
> hearing about 'em now is a good thing and they need to be fixed.

I don't mind people redoing wheel from scratch, bug I appreciate
that if Arabeyes mentions these shortcomings when sending patches
containing minibidi to external projects, including but not
limited to, cups and PuTTY.

> As for the 2 remaining points (comments later),
>
>  + Shaping - in lieu of having shaping in fribidi we end-up doing
>    shaping word-by-word (let alone line-by-line) and so what
>    minibidi is doing is what we've done so far by hand, it just
>    captured it into an implementation we can point to.  I agree
>    that we need to be perfect and do the optimal/correct thing,
>    but meanwhile we can't simply just wait.  The idea, as with
>    fribidi, is that if you extrapolate this code to be its own
>    external'ish entity you can handle that better in the future
>    hopefully (that's a tall order esp. when the API is involved
>    when you're going from single lines/words to paragraphs).
>
>  + Library - this idea sprung from the PuTTY work (as you know) and
>    it was a means to simply study and get more proficient in the
>    algorithm (it was/is never meant to replace anything).
>
> With that said, I'm all for improving miniBidi to conform better and
> to improve speed and get a better code framework (for future changes
> and revisions) as a learning process.  I think the shaping portion of
> it will continue to be controversial until a better solution is put
> forth or until fribidi finally adopts/incorporates it.

Note that there is a better joining implementation already in
BiCon.

> Salam.
>
>  - Nadim

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