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Re: Arabic distro
- To: Haydar <haydar at haydar dot net>
- Subject: Re: Arabic distro
- From: Nadim Shaikli <shaikli at yahoo dot com>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:34:23 -0800 (PST)
- Cc: Chahine Hamila <mch at chaham dot com>, Isam Bayazidi <bayazidi at accessme dot com>, Mohammed Elzubeir <elzubeir at fakkir dot net>, halkaduhimi at chello dot nl
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 03:05:17 +0100
"Haydar" <haydar at haydar dot net> wrote:
>
> I had discussed some of these issues before with my team members and
> partners, and here is the first reaction for every point in your e-mail
> today:
>
>
> Nadim Shaikli wrote:
>
> >Haydar, sorry for the late reply (since this is a new area for us and is
> >very important and will have future connotations, we are having lots of
> >internal discussion regarding this - by no means does it take us a long
> >time to make decisions though :-)
> >
> >As noted after some internal discussion we have the following to note
> >(no major issues/surprises, just making sure everything is obvious).
> >
> > 1. Please read the revised/attached "views" file
> >
>
> I have.
>
> > 2. A couple of REALLY obvious things (simply to make sure they were stated)
> > a. All your and our code will be used by others (free/open) - there is
> > NO exclusivity by either party
> >
>
> The installer "BURAQ" will not "and it is not possible to" be open
> source until version 2 of Haydar Linux but it will always be free, this
> is one of my partners conditions.
>
> > b. Arabeyes' aims and goals are non-commercial and as such we (as well
> > as you) have the right to partner with whomever we wish to further
> > our cause without the need to get permission
> >
>
> Haydar Linux is a project of "Haydar Net", and Haydar Net have the right
> to partner/invested with anyone we want.
> This also means that you will have all rights in anything you create to
> partner/invested with anybody you want. and this include projects of
> other parties, because these parties will have all there copyright to them.
>
> > 3. The way we envision the directory structure on CVS is as follows
> >
> > projects/distro/haydarlinux/
> >
> > All files/packages that are specific to the distribution will reside
> > under that dir except in the few cases where projects (like xterm)
> > could be used outside of the distro and could be viewed as their own
> > projects - in those cases the "self-standing" project will be in
> >
> > projects/NAME (ie. it will be outside of distro/haydar path)
> >
> > Similar to Akka/QaMoose, etc
>
> This is OK.
>
> > 4. The "HaydarLinux" project will have its own page on arabeyes, akin to
> >
> > http://www.arabeyes.org/projects/haydarlinux.php
> >
> > which will abide and have the same format as all the other projects
> > on Arabeyes. This is important to maintain consistency on all the
> > project pages hosted by Arabeyes.
> >
>
> As i mention before, Haydar Linux is a Haydar Net project and it has
> it's own page, you can link to it and/or mention that you are helping
> Haydar Net in it's project but not making it your own project and i
> don't think you mean to take somebody's work and have it in your name.
>
We never intended (nor will we ever) claim anyone's work to be ours if its
not. You might have misunderstood the intention of the page - its a place
to inform others of what's going on and is a means to recruit anyone who is
interested in helping or might have similar interests. We'd like to have a
distro.php similar to vim.php that is currently on Arabeyes since we've come
across a number of other people how would be interested in helping and
contributing. The page will be a means to inform the public of what is
happening from Arabeyes' prospective regarding any distro work that is taking
place and will serve as a history log, as an information center and will
certainly contain links to your haydarlinux.com page :-)
> >
> > 5. The project list that you mailed was very extensive and is somewhat
> > long-termed at best. At this current time we have interest in the
> > following sub-projects you listed,
> >
> > a. Xterm
> > i. Mail Program (pine/mutt)
> > b. WindowManager (mainstream (windowmaker/E/fvwm/- not homegrown))
> > c. Emacs (note that a Japanese guy might fill this)
> > d. OpenOffice
> > e. hijri
> >
>
> I did not say that you should do all of it, i have said that you can
> help, and what you have chosen is very good.
>
> > 6. The other projects listed seemed to fall under the "translation"
> > umbrella (ie. translate the interface, etc). All "translation"
> > projects are very VERY low priority to us, and on those projects
> > WE (Arabeyes) will set the priorities on.
> >
> > In other words, only we will post to 'doc' noting what is priority
> > for the translators will tackle next (this by no means, excludes you
> > or others from soliciting help on the list and else-where, but you
> > may not set Arabeyes' priorities and dictate what those volunteers
> > will translate next). The reason behind this seemingly militant
> > rule is simply - we are trying to help the GENERAL Arab linux/unix
> > community in large and so having limited focus does NOT serve that
> > purpose. For instance KDE/Gnome is certainly more important
> > compared to "login/setup-configuration" setting on HaydarLinux
> > and as such we'd like to maintain that clear distinction.
> >
>
> You have all the right in this.
OK, everything sounds like its in order. We should get down to actual
work then :-) please contact Mohammed Elzubeir to setup the CVS import
of your files to Arabeyes, as well as issue the needed accounts, etc.
Regards,
- Nadim
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