Re: Arabeyes Charter Proposal

[Isam Bayazidi <bayazidi at arabeyes dot org>]

:-)
It just jumped to my little brain ! why would Aarbeyes Have a charter in 
English !!! that is ironic ! After all english is not the first language for 
of us :-)

Chahine, About the articles vote, first, The vote for the articles in 
indevidual is different than the vote for the whole charter, when I vote for 
the whole thing a balance between the aticles I think are OK and what I think 
is not OK, and then make a decision for the whole thing. While the vote for 
acticles is to eleminate the aticles that you think should not be there.

and we did not hold a vote for the articles, I just did it for showing what I 
think is fine and what is not ...

and again I think that the way you want to pass this on ASAP is not very 
healthy .. as Moe noted before, the Charter should be there unchanged as long 
as possibel, and rushing into things will cause not making this charter in 
the best shape.. so make it take it's time .. no rush

On Friday 15 March 2002 07:42 am, Chahine M. Hamila wrote:
> Salaam,
> I have no problem discussing some of the articles personally. So whatever
> is voted yes and neutral is passed I guess (I guess since Moe voted yes to
> the charter, it is for him too, correct me if I'm wrong).
> Before considering the rest passed too (even though technically they are,
> we can still amen what you think is not ok if the majority is for it), I
> would like to to take a look at your nos:
>
> Isam Bayazidi a *crit :
> > NO              for     A.2     //( shouldn't be in a charter, the UN
> > human rights says it)
> >
> :) Well, we can remove it I guess, but I think it is very important to
> : remind it because it
>
> happened at some point that it seemed forgotten to me.
>
> > NO              for     D.3
>
> Can you propose an alternative way to give each of us a 'lesser veto'?
> Something that would give us a way to complete block an inclusion we think
> would be incompatible with ourselves while still not paralyzing the team if
> it's determined enough?
>
> > NO              for     E
>
> What do you propose for exclusion?
>
> > NO              for     F //needs restructuring to make it clear (
> > points)
>
> Can you propose an alternative?
>
> > It seems that you have a lot to disagree on then to agree on :-) Now, let
> > us remember what we ALL agree on:
> > - Arabeyes is there for a reason
> > - Arabeyes is to fulfill its goals
> > - We volunteered for Arabeyes because we believe in the GOALS of
> > Arabeyes, and want to help fulfill them
>
> Isam, I happen to agree with what you are saying above here but (and I
> don't mean Nadim personally, but speaking in general), if the vision of how
> to go forward is very different, a working team is doomed. This is the ABC
> of any project in fact. Take a country for example, different parties can
> all want the greater good of the country, but they can be different enough
> on how they think thet achieve it to make it impossible to settle in one
> same governement. That's very true in any managing team in any project.
> Yalla, salaam,
> Chahine
>
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Yours,
Isam Bayazidi
Amman - Jordan
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