Re: [Saudi Linux] RH Linux became to an end!!

[Arafat Medini <lumina at silverpen dot de>]

Why making another distro? you have any flavour you need out there, if
it is about the arabization the platforms for supporting arabic language
are also present in the big distros like RH aka fedora, SuSE or
Mandrake, so the question would be :"why reinventing the wheel?" we have
very limited time and we need to put it wisely, our servers run with
money which we have to pay and we are not so much ppl, compiling a
kernel alone won't do it. And if you want a fully Arabic Linux try
Arabbix, very sweet CD btw.

This question is like why the Arabs don't have a car, what about
inventing a new hybrid motor and selling it to Mercedes instead of
making a new diesel? concedering that making a whole platform needs 10
years of research and dedication, but the end will be something
outdated, investing 10 years and being in the heart of the development
would be far wiser. Same thing goes for linux, being in the heart by
making technologies like katoob or Akka or patches or a Live CD fully in
Arabic is far more interesting then compiling a kernel IMHO.

yours
Arafat
Am Fre, 2003-11-07 um 19.19 schrieb Yaser Al-Jarbou:
> I wonder why arabeyes.org can't build their own
> distribution of linux since they have done a great job
> in arabizaion.
> 
> people of arabeye.org, I think you have start thinking
> about that.
> 
> 
> --- Isam Bayazidi <isam at bayazidi dot net> wrote:
> > On Friday 07 November 2003 02:29, Suliman A Alsamhan
> > wrote:
> > >  Alsalamo Alikom,
> > 
> > Wa Alaikom Al Salam
> > 
> > >  I think the hot news these days for Linux
> > community is RH (RedHat) step.
> > >  There is no longer free distribution of RH Linux.
> > You need to buy it for
> > >  either the desktops or servers.
> > >
> > >  Great, now, what is the deference between RH and
> > M$ (Microsoft).
> > 
> > One of those companies provide Linux, and the other
> > give Windows, and the 
> > technical differences between the 2 systems are very
> > clear to you I think, as 
> > you are I linux user (I suppose). The story is about
> > a Linux Company that 
> > decided to stop their Freely downloadable
> > distribution, and concentrate more 
> > on their Enterprise solutions. The Freely
> > Downloadable RedHat will be under 
> > the name Fedora. So Fedora is RedHat without the
> > RedHat name and support.
> > 
> > >  I know that some of you will talk a lot about the
> > deference between open
> > >  source and free stuff.  We still have the open
> > source advantage but we
> > >  lost the free of charge advantage.
> > >
> > >  And, some will say this is the greatness of open
> > source, we do not stick
> > >  with one company moves.
> > >
> > >  Really what we care about as Linux user??
> > >
> > >  For me, I care about the stability and security
> > of the system. As we
> > >  know, RH was one of the most stable
> > distributions. The up2date tool was
> > >  a great tool to use to update your system. Keep
> > your system bugs free.
> > >
> > >  Now, where should we run to??
> > >
> > >  Debain, Suse, Fedora!!!
> > 
> > 
> > Well, SuSE is as Free as RedHat as, and I mean here
> > that SuSE do not provide a 
> > Freely downloadable version of their distribution,
> > and they have not done 
> > that for years. Now as for the home user, I am not
> > sure how much is the 
> > choice of Linux is about saving money when you buy
> > the system. So if we talk 
> > about Free distributions we have: Debian, Gentoo,
> > Slackware, Mandrake, and at 
> > least 100 more. Now as for the commercial
> > distributions, they always existed, 
> > and they are not very expensive. For example the
> > SuSE Linux 9 Personal is for 
> > around 50$ I think, and it includes some 60 or 90
> > days support. And you have 
> > Lindows (which I personally hate), Xandros, yopper,
> > and 10s more. The point 
> > is that it is not a big deal for users I think that
> > RedHat stopped their Free 
> > distribution, and gave it under the Fedora project.
> > 
> > >  Or should we switch to *BSD stuff (FreeBSD,
> > OpenBSD, or NetBSD)
> > >
> > >  I am thinking about my web servers, mail servers,
> > IDS sensors, my own
> > >  Desktop Laptop.
> > >
> > >  Will Fedora satisfy our needs?
> > >  Will it be stable, solid, and secure??
> > >
> > >  Is it easy to get and install patches and new
> > software??
> > 
> > I had not tried it yet, but from what I heard, it is
> > a continuation for the 
> > RedHat 7, 8, 9 series. So it can be thought of
> > RedHat 10. Now as for the 
> > security and stability that will probably be up to
> > the user administration. 
> > Fedora will provide the latest programs as RPM
> > packages, if a user likes to 
> > try every new release of a program such as (OpenSSH,
> > Apache, Kernel, and so) 
> > he will be facing some threat. So good system
> > administration can make the 
> > system secure. For those that does not know, if you
> > spend alot of time and 
> > effort, and put really good skills, you can even
> > make Windows secure, believe 
> > that is true. 
> > 
> > >  Personally, I think *BSD will be good replacement
> > -if possible- for my
> > >  critical mission systems.
> > 
> > BSDs are known to be really good for Servers, no one
> > can argue with that. But 
> > as for Home PCs users tend to like to have the
> > latest of everything, Latest 
> > of KDE, Gnome, Mozilla, K3B, OpenOffice and so, that
> > to have that Linux is a 
> > better option. 
> > 
> > 
> > >  Lets see the future developments.
> > >
> > >  Regards,
> > >  Suliman
> > >
> > >
> > >  [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > >
> > >
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