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1. Arabeyes & Open Source (Mohammed Elzubeir)
2. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Yaser Al-Jarbou)
3. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Ossama Khayaat)
4. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Mohamed Eldesoky)
5. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Jamil Khatib)
6. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Youcef Rabah Rahal)
7. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Ossama Khayaat)
8. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Youcef Rabah Rahal)
9. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Ossama Khayaat)
10. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Mohammed Sameer)
11. Re: Arabeyes & Open Source (Isam Bayazidi)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:50:17 -0500
From: Mohammed Elzubeir <elzubeir at arabeyes dot org>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Subject: Arabeyes & Open Source
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Salam,
After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed throughout the last couple yea=
rs+,
we have had some interest from some private investors to take over the
project.
Starting from next month, the project will be Closed Source and hand over
its assets to the new investor (who has asked to remain anonymous at this
time). All work that has been done so far will remain Open Source and anyone
can continue to work on. However, further development will be closed source.
We thank you all for your hard work and efforts in making this project such
a success.
Thank you.
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| Mohammed Elzubeir | Visit us at: |
| | http://www.arabeyes.org/ |
| Arabeyes Project | Homepage: |
| Unix the 'right' way | http://fakkir.net/~elzubeir/|
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:58:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Yaser Al-Jarbou <jarbouym at yahoo dot com>
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
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I don't agree this approach, unless you give us more explaination.
closing the project, will slow down the arabization process for open source
systems. and no one will be interested for none GPL license software.
Mohammed Elzubeir <elzubeir at arabeyes dot org> wrote:
Salam,
After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed throughout the last couple
years+,
we have had some interest from some private investors to take over the
project.
Starting from next month, the project will be Closed Source and hand over
its assets to the new investor (who has asked to remain anonymous at this
time). All work that has been done so far will remain Open Source and anyone
can continue to work on. However, further development will be closed source.
We thank you all for your hard work and efforts in making this project such
a success.
Thank you.
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| Mohammed Elzubeir | Visit us at: |
| | http://www.arabeyes.org/ |
| Arabeyes Project | Homepage: |
| Unix the 'right' way | http://fakkir.net/~elzubeir/|
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<P>I don't agree this approach, unless you give us more
explaination.<BR>closing the project, will slow down the arabization process
for open source systems. and no one will be interested for none GPL l<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>icense software.</FONT>
<P> <B><I>Mohammed Elzubeir <elzubeir at arabeyes dot org></I></B>
wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff
2px solid"><BR>Salam,<BR><BR>After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed
throughout the last couple years+,<BR>we have had some interest from some
private investors to take over the<BR>project.<BR><BR>Starting from next
month, the project will be Closed Source and hand over<BR>its assets to the
new investor (who has asked to remain anonymous at this<BR>time). All work
that has been done so far will remain Open Source and anyone<BR>can continue
to work on. However, further development will be closed source.<BR><BR>We
thank you all for your hard work and efforts in making this project
such<BR>a success.<BR><BR>Thank you.<BR>--
<BR>-------------------------------------------------------<BR>| Mohammed
Elzubeir | Visit us at: |<BR>| | http://www.arabeyes.org/ |<BR>| Arabeyes
Project | Homepage: |<BR>| Unix the 'right' way |
http://fakkir.net/~elzubeir/|<BR>-------------------------------------------
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Message: 3
From: Ossama Khayaat <ossamak at nht dot com dot kw>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:44:21 +0300
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
What? Why is this? What's the problem? This is really a bad news :((( I
won't agree at all with this. Please give us more information on the
reasons for this!!!
I sacrificed my job, for the sake of helping in Linux Arabization and
spend all my time trying to improve my skills just for the sake of
helping Linux and Arabic spreak around the Arabian countries.... :(
Can't we do anything about it? If it needs more funds, maybe we can take
it. If it needs time, we can save more time for it, but changeing the
approach to CLOSED-SOURCE this way is KILLING!!!
I almost had a hard-heart-arrack when I read the email!! Please don't do
this to us...
Even if we (myself at least) didn't contribute well, but at least we
tried our best, and still I would try my best to keep it going.
Please, Mr. ElZubeir give us more information about this.. and let's all
decide as we do usually.
regards,
Ossama Khayat
Mohammed Elzubeir wrote:
>Salam,
>
>After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed throughout the last couple
>years+,
>we have had some interest from some private investors to take over the
>project.
>
>Starting from next month, the project will be Closed Source and hand
>over
>its assets to the new investor (who has asked to remain anonymous at
>this
>time). All work that has been done so far will remain Open Source and
>anyone
>can continue to work on. However, further development will be closed
>source.
>
>We thank you all for your hard work and efforts in making this project
>such
>a success.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
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Message: 4
From: Mohamed Eldesoky <arabi at hotpop dot com>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:54:17 +0200
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
Looking to my calendar
This is 1st april
Fools day
:))
nice game kuru
Mohamed Eldesoky
Linux-Egypt.org
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 1:44 pm, Ossama Khayaat wrote:
> What? Why is this? What's the problem? This is really a bad news :((( I
> won't agree at all with this. Please give us more information on the
> reasons for this!!!
> I sacrificed my job, for the sake of helping in Linux Arabization and
> spend all my time trying to improve my skills just for the sake of
> helping Linux and Arabic spreak around the Arabian countries.... :(
>
> Can't we do anything about it? If it needs more funds, maybe we can take
> it. If it needs time, we can save more time for it, but changeing the
> approach to CLOSED-SOURCE this way is KILLING!!!
>
> I almost had a hard-heart-arrack when I read the email!! Please don't do
> this to us...
> Even if we (myself at least) didn't contribute well, but at least we
> tried our best, and still I would try my best to keep it going.
>
> Please, Mr. ElZubeir give us more information about this.. and let's all
> decide as we do usually.
>
> regards,
> Ossama Khayat
>
> Mohammed Elzubeir wrote:
> >Salam,
> >
> >After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed throughout the last couple
> >years+,
> >we have had some interest from some private investors to take over the
> >project.
> >
> >Starting from next month, the project will be Closed Source and hand
> >over
> >its assets to the new investor (who has asked to remain anonymous at
> >this
> >time). All work that has been done so far will remain Open Source and
> >anyone
> >can continue to work on. However, further development will be closed
> >source.
> >
> >We thank you all for your hard work and efforts in making this project
> >such
> >a success.
> >
> >Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at arabeyes dot org
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 04:11:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Jamil Khatib <jamilkhatib75 at yahoo dot com>
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
Salam,
First of all I wish you good luck.
Although I am not an active member of Arabeyes but I
think making the project as a closed source is not so
good for teh community specially for Arab world. You
will lose lot of developers and may be projects. Look
at what some open source people are doing when they
are supported by companies they keep their designs
open and find another way for companies to get back
their investiments. May be support, adding extra
features or so.
I hope I am not bothering anyone but this is my
opinion.
Best regards,
Jamil Khatib
--- Mohammed Elzubeir <elzubeir at arabeyes dot org> wrote:
>
> Salam,
>
> After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed
> throughout the last couple years+,
> we have had some interest from some private
> investors to take over the
> project.
>
> Starting from next month, the project will be Closed
> Source and hand over
> its assets to the new investor (who has asked to
> remain anonymous at this
> time). All work that has been done so far will
> remain Open Source and anyone
> can continue to work on. However, further
> development will be closed source.
>
> We thank you all for your hard work and efforts in
> making this project such
> a success.
>
> Thank you.
> --
>
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> | Mohammed Elzubeir | Visit us at:
> |
> | | http://www.arabeyes.org/
> |
> | Arabeyes Project | Homepage:
> |
> | Unix the 'right' way |
> http://fakkir.net/~elzubeir/|
>
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Message: 6
From: "Youcef Rabah Rahal" <yrrahal42 at hotmail dot com>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:18:27 +0200
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
Hehehe....
Good Joke. Well please stop the torture, people will start to commit suicide
:-)))
>From: Ossama Khayaat
>Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
>Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:44:21 +0300
>I almost had a hard-heart-arrack when I read the email!! Please don't do
>this to us...
^
|
|
|
|
You see, you almost killed poor old Ossama ;)
Salam,
Youcef.
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Message: 7
From: Ossama Khayaat <ossamak at nht dot com dot kw>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:22:52 +0300
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
Man I'm almost crying if this is true... :'(
Ossama
Youcef Rabah Rahal wrote:
> Hehehe....
>
> Good Joke. Well please stop the torture, people will start to commit
> suicide :-)))
>
>> From: Ossama Khayaat
>> Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
>> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:44:21 +0300
>
>
>> I almost had a hard-heart-arrack when I read the email!! Please don't
>> do this to us...
>
> ^
> |
> |
> |
> |
> You see, you almost killed poor old Ossama ;)
>
> Salam,
>
> Youcef.
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
From: "Youcef Rabah Rahal" <yrrahal42 at hotmail dot com>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:37:01 +0200
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
No Ossama, this is really a joke. It is april 1st today. Wipe your tears !
Mohammed, please, this is going to cause so much damage ;-))))
Salam.
>From: Ossama Khayaat
>Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
>Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:22:52 +0300
>
>Man I'm almost crying if this is true... :'(
>
>Ossama
>
>Youcef Rabah Rahal wrote:
>
>>Hehehe....
>>
>>Good Joke. Well please stop the torture, people will start to commit
>>suicide :-)))
>>
>>>From: Ossama Khayaat
>>>Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
>>>Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:44:21 +0300
>>
>>
>>>I almost had a hard-heart-arrack when I read the email!! Please don't do
>>>this to us...
>>
>> ^
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>>You see, you almost killed poor old Ossama ;)
>>
>>Salam,
>>
>>Youcef.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 9
From: Ossama Khayaat <ossamak at nht dot com dot kw>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:00:56 +0300
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
:))) Really, I was just kidding then :)
Actually, the first time I read it I was really so shocked specially
that I already had a shock when I read an article about a Linux hacker
converting to Windows XP at Distrowatch's site
(http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=review-winxp)
but then ofcourse it was al an April Fool :)
Thanks and I hope it always stays as Open Source not matter what we have
to do for it to be.
May Allah bless you all,
Ossama Khayat
Youcef Rabah Rahal wrote:
>
>
> No Ossama, this is really a joke. It is april 1st today. Wipe your
> tears !
>
> Mohammed, please, this is going to cause so much damage ;-))))
>
> Salam.
>
>> From: Ossama Khayaat
>> Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
>> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:22:52 +0300
>>
>> Man I'm almost crying if this is true... :'(
>>
>> Ossama
>>
>> Youcef Rabah Rahal wrote:
>>
>>> Hehehe....
>>>
>>> Good Joke. Well please stop the torture, people will start to commit
>>> suicide :-)))
>>>
>>>> From: Ossama Khayaat
>>>> Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
>>>> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:44:21 +0300
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I almost had a hard-heart-arrack when I read the email!! Please
>>>> don't do this to us...
>>>
>>>
>>> ^
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>> You see, you almost killed poor old Ossama ;)
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>>
>>> Youcef.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:25:05 +0200
From: Mohammed Sameer <Uniball at gmx dot net>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
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Once upon a time Mohammed Elzubeir wrote @ Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:50:17 -0500
>
> Salam,
>
> After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed throughout the last couple
years+,
> we have had some interest from some private investors to take over the
> project.
>
> Starting from next month, the project will be Closed Source and hand over
> its assets to the new investor (who has asked to remain anonymous at this
> time). All work that has been done so far will remain Open Source and
anyone
> can continue to work on. However, further development will be closed
source.
>
> We thank you all for your hard work and efforts in making this project
such
> a success.
>
Yes i really support this step! especially if the company will be Microsoft
or Sony or Casio!
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Message: 11
From: Isam Bayazidi <bayazidi at arabeyes dot org>
To: general at arabeyes dot org
Subject: Re: Arabeyes & Open Source
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:02:10 +0300
Reply-To: general at arabeyes dot org
OK, it was obvious that this is a joke ! at least this is what occurred to
me
when I read the post :-)
Now being frank, do you think that Arabeyes-core have the right to do such a
thing ? NO, if Arabeyes decided to go close Source we will Sue it (oh I will
Sue my self!:-) )
Now please remember that most of the efforts made here are GPL, Duali is
BSD,
and VIM is GPL-compatable.. so the source code, and translation files, and
everything that we are working on, and the fruits of your efforts are really
Owned by you, and your neighbor, and you cousin, everyone :-)
So, such thing won't happen, because it can't happen ! :-) I You own the
fruit
of Arabeyes members efforts as much as everyone, including the founders of
Arabeyes..
So Take your breath, and thing about benefits of your work with Arabeyes,
and
what you've do if this joke was not a joke, do we really need Arabeyes ?
Yours
Isam Bayazidi
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 14:54, Mohamed Eldesoky wrote:
> Looking to my calendar
> This is 1st april
> Fools day
>
> :))
>
> nice game kuru
>
> Mohamed Eldesoky
> Linux-Egypt.org
>
> On Tuesday 01 April 2003 1:44 pm, Ossama Khayaat wrote:
> > What? Why is this? What's the problem? This is really a bad news :((( I
> > won't agree at all with this. Please give us more information on the
> > reasons for this!!!
> > I sacrificed my job, for the sake of helping in Linux Arabization and
> > spend all my time trying to improve my skills just for the sake of
> > helping Linux and Arabic spreak around the Arabian countries.... :(
> >
> > Can't we do anything about it? If it needs more funds, maybe we can take
> > it. If it needs time, we can save more time for it, but changeing the
> > approach to CLOSED-SOURCE this way is KILLING!!!
> >
> > I almost had a hard-heart-arrack when I read the email!! Please don't do
> > this to us...
> > Even if we (myself at least) didn't contribute well, but at least we
> > tried our best, and still I would try my best to keep it going.
> >
> > Please, Mr. ElZubeir give us more information about this.. and let's all
> > decide as we do usually.
> >
> > regards,
> > Ossama Khayat
> >
> > Mohammed Elzubeir wrote:
> > >Salam,
> > >
> > >After seeing how the Arabeyes has progressed throughout the last couple
> > >years+,
> > >we have had some interest from some private investors to take over the
> > >project.
> > >
> > >Starting from next month, the project will be Closed Source and hand
> > >over
> > >its assets to the new investor (who has asked to remain anonymous at
> > >this
> > >time). All work that has been done so far will remain Open Source and
> > >anyone
> > >can continue to work on. However, further development will be closed
> > >source.
> > >
> > >We thank you all for your hard work and efforts in making this project
> > >such
> > >a success.
> > >
> > >Thank you.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at arabeyes dot org
> > http://lists.arabeyes.org/mailman/listinfo/general
>
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