Re: ActionApps POs

[Nadim Shaikli <shaikli at yahoo dot com>]

--- Mohammed Sameer <msameer at foolab dot org> wrote:
> I still think it's not required, If I'm a translator why am I supposed
> to learn CVS ?

Mohammed, you make it sound as though people are being asked to go get
a PhD in Plate Tectonics.  We are talking about 4 commands that would
have taken less time to comprehend than to read this entire thread.

 + cvs login
 + cvs checkout
 + cvs update -dP
 + cvs commit

Conflicts and the more involved stuff (if any) is NOT expected of people
to know, what's partly what we (those with a bit more experience) are here
to help with.

> If you want me to use wincvs then provide a step-by-step guide on how to
> use it on windows and on GNU/Linux.

This was/is provided already -> http://www.arabeyes.org/docs.php

> Imagine if all what I have is 2 hours per week, Am I going to spend them
> learning CVS or translating ? Which is more important ?

If it will take you 2 hours to learn 4 commands then you have bigger
problems to deal with :-)

> And I said that I'm willing to -and I'll be very happy- if I can handle
> the CVS things.

What is being noted here is important since we are first and foremost
advocates of the Open Source process - we are after all trying to get 
more people involved so that more people start _using_ linux.  Plenty
of translators have come (and gone) that simply refused to use linux
for instance (which kinda makes you wonder why they even want to translate
for something they had no intention of using).  The point being made here
is that if anyone intends to be a project leader (ie. responsible for it,
upkeeper of it, etc) then he/she is expected to learn/do the bare minimums.
Logging to the website to update a blurb every so often to keep everyone
informed is also expected.  If there are agreements between people to 'cvs
commit' things on other people's behalf that's between them (as discouraged
as that is so that people really get involved).  Doing proxy commits is OK
to help people out or to inspect their work prior to giving them CVS commit
rights, but it should not really be normal operational procedure.

Refusing to learn those 4 pesky commands seems counter-productive - it's
like having someone wanting to volunteer to help out with the translation
work but he/she refuses to use a computer, they insist on doing the
translations on a piece of paper.  As silly as that might be some might
actually accept it, but again are we really helping educate said person
and/or propel our collective community forward if we opted to do that -
I don't think so.

For those uncomfortable about relinquishing their windows OS, look into
installing cygwin (cygwin.com) it is _extremely_ easy to do and offers
a very reasonable linux/unix experience.

Salam.

 - Nadim


		
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