Re: KACST / Arabeyes Translation Projects

[Munzir Taha <munzirtaha at newhorizons dot com dot sa>]

On Yaum al-Sabt 08 Jumaada al-Awal 1425 02:30 pm, Mohammed Elzubeir wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:25:24AM +0300, Munzir Taha wrote:
>
> Salam Munzir,
>
> First of all, thank you _very_ much for getting the translators to
> register ;)

You haven't given me an option, though ;)

> Although, after a long debate in core, there was a deadlock 
> (2 - 2) of whether we should make this mandatory.

I can't believe that 2 stood behind this strange attitude. You are still not 
understanding me (karouri, please come to the rescue again ;) )
If you put a rule a long the line of "you need to register individually in 
case of team work" and there came a team with one account and contribute 
without telling you about the details, would you block his contribution 
if you know it couldn't be a one-person translation depending on the # of 
translations he had done. I waited long to see this partnership policy to 
point to its expected weak points....


> With that being said, 
> if this, in the near future, presents itself to be more of a hassle than
> it's worth, we will revert back to having you commit on their behalf.

Please, please, don't force others to register individually if they don't want 
to. Don't force others to show whether they are paid or not and count it as 
dancing. I DON'T like this forcing at all. I believe if you put a rule along 
those lines it would just be meaningless. I meant to say that next time 
others (in case they have reasons) are not going to tell you we are 
KACST, ... we are 5 translators, ... they would just translate without 
details. It's ok to put rules/policies regarding credit to organizations, 
institutions, groups but don't even think about concealing/revealing identity 
police-related issues. PLEASE, it's shameful.

> I would also recommend that you do not start with KDE. I need more time
> to set this up. The wordlist is a good place to start with, however, you
> are free to decide on which projects are a priority.
> Certainly not 
> Fedora though (as our status with them is currently unknown).

The problem is their first priority is Fedora, second is KDE. Actually Fedora 
is their main project and everything else follows. Now, what should I do? 
Elzubeir, please this work is paid as you know and hence there is no way to 
postpone it in any way. An day passed without work is a loss. Please let's us 
resolve all the pending issues so we can start from tomorrow. Either KDE or 
Fedora.

What's the problem if you allow us to contribute directly to KDE through 
your/Zawawi cvs account? You have mentioned before that you have other 
accounts.

> Since you will be working with those individuals, I don't need to remind
> you to have them follow the things we have already been doing (in terms
> of terminology, etc.). If there are suggestions to doing things
> differently (translating things differently that is), which I am _sure_
> will come up, it would be great to have that brought up so it would be
> something everyone can benefit from right away.

Sure.

> With that being said, I think it would be a good idea for you to join
> the QAC and participate in the various discussions/decisions taking
> place there.

Sure if joing the QAC won't require any requirements like translating a 
specified number of words at a time.

> I will have their CVS accounts ready the minute their applications are
> replied to (I think Nadim has been doing this so far, phew!).

Thanks a lot.

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