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Re: masdar or fi3l amr
- To: Documentation and Translation <doc at arabeyes dot org>
- Subject: Re: masdar or fi3l amr
- From: Arafat Medini <lumina at silverpen dot de>
- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:01:45 +0100
French, german, spanish, japanese, english.
All of them use infinitive forms!
it is now 10 pm so I'll go and sleep first ;) But I still have many
things to say hehe ;)
I still think mine is the best :P
yours
Arafat
> Salam,
>
> Hmm, nice passionate debate ;-)
>
> Anyway, I have no specific preference but here's what I think.
>
> * When I first met a computer, the GUI was in French... In that language, it
> happens that all the actions are in the _infinitive_ form.
>
> * When I first seen an English interface, I was already biased. In that
> language, as you know, it happens that the imperative and infinitive forms
> are not distinguishable. So, for me, English people was using infinitive too
> :-)
>
> * When I finally met an Arabic interface, the interfaces were mainly using
> masdars (infinitive). So for me, nothing changed really.
>
> So, to summarize, I got early to use infinitive (masdars) in interfaces.
> However, recently, I started to use Imperative forms in translations and I
> saw imperative forms in GUIs. And I must say that it is not bad at all and
> one can really get used to it quickly.
>
> What I think therefore is that moving to imperative forms should not be an
> issue in itself. Given some time for people to get used to it, it should
> become natural. What I want to understand is why, in the first place, we
> should we prefer imperative form ? ie. Is there any references that talk
> about this issue ? Are there any links out there that speak about this
> specific issue (for ex: In English GUIs, strings are in imperative forms and
> not infinitive etc).
>
> Again, I do not prefer any solution really. I just want to have a rationale
> for us to use something rather than the other. I may be biased, but look, the
> French (and the Spanish if I'm not mistaken) use infinitive forms in their
> GUIs (not only the translated ones), so why should _we_ use imperative forms
> ?
>
> Just wanting to understand and make a constructive debate,
>
> Salam,
>
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