Re: Translation projects' status ?

[Nadim Shaikli <shaikli at yahoo dot com>]

--- Arafat Medini <lumina at silverpen dot de> wrote:
> > + Mandrake has its installation files off-site (not sure what the
> >   status of that work), could we get those files to reside on arabeyes
> >   to centralize all such work (Mohammed.Gamal ?) ?
> >     http://www.linux-mandrake.com/l10n/ar.php3
> 
> I agree on that as Mandrake would be a logical step for an Arabbix
> shifter ( to understand what shifter means look further at the upcoming
> paragraphs)

Munzir, could you please contact Mr. M.Gamal and others to get this issue
taken care of ?  It would be best to have one central repository to deal
with all these issues.

> > + Debian will soon (Anmar ?) be having its own installation files uploaded
> >   to arabeyes to be worked on (translate/debian ?)-- I wasn't able to find
> >   a remote status page.
> 
> Is this important?
> As it would be better to concentrate our efforts on Arabbix, I think
> translating Debian is not a good thing to do NOW, only geeks install
> Debian on their Servers or workstns and well for these ppl it doesnt
> metter if the installation process is in Arabic or English, in my
> opinion its a waste of resources its better to concentrate on making
> Arabbix kicks A*#...

Hehehe - Arabbix is debian based :-)  So the only reason I cited Anmar
above is with relation to that.  Alas, this is likely to be done under
the Arabbix umbrella but certainly falls in this context.  We have yet
to identify __anyone__ to work on it.

> > + There was talk that we needed to arabize the debian.org pages (since alot
> >   of other languages have already done that), yet I'm not sure if anyone
> >   has signed-up for that.
> 
> Well maybe this is ok but still maybe this is more a prestige work, I don't
> know...

These were all issues that came to mind - I agree that this is not necessary,
but needs to be done at some point in the future.  Again, anyone interested
in doing this ?  We are like the only language missing from there (and that
is a shame).

> > + There has also been talk of doing something with OpenOffice.org (OOo),
> >   yet the details escape me -- we are to translate a bunch of things for
> >   them as well.
> 
> This is good I suppose this has to be done indeed...

Again, we need people to volunteer to take this topic and work on.  Anyone ?

> > + I'm not sure what is the status and purpose of this page,
> >     http://www2.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/registry.cgi?team=ar
> >   but someone should contact the person noted there to get some
> >   feedback from him.
> 
> From the apps it seems hes translating GNU tools into Arabic
> maybe contact him for more information? Present him our project
> and ask him to joint efforts?

OK, I'll try to add to my todo list.  Again, anyone interested in working
on ANYTHING that is listed there ?  Come on, people !!


> > + I don't think we ever got a revised timeline/schedule on the
> >   wordlist project (Ahmad/asr ?) - it would be best to gate our
> >   progress and set some milestones.
> 
> what do they want to do with the file? Waht are their goals?  Which meals
> do they like ;) do they have pets? =) And well what's their status...

What they want to do with the files and what the goals are was and is plainly
evident from the project page -- my concern was simply having a timeline and
knowing when things will roll out.  Ahmad, when you get a change, do please
let us know (my previous plan was too aggressive from what I remember).

> I think making a standardized script is very good for this task,
> something like:
> 
> Name
> Persons status
> status of the project
> goals
> not attained goals
> reproposed goals
> need help
> new member
> personal thoughts

Filling-out forms (although a good intended idea) is one that will simply
not work.  What we need is the commitment of say 5-8 more people to complete
all that is noted above in a timely fashion.  Having people fill-out forms
to make them feel better doesn't seem like the proper may to go.  We have
various tid-bits of info when people register - so the issue is not knowing
that people exist and at some point they wanted to help, its simply that
they said "YES, will do" and they did not (ie. they are not committed and
are not being truthful to themselves above all).

Salam.

 - Nadim

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