Re: Lebanese LUG meeting breakdown

[Arafat Medini <lumina at silverpen dot de>]

I don't want to be sarcastic here, but after passing many weeks "living"
the mono/.net/longhorn threats, the developments in the linux world
after Novell came in and with it's release of iFolder/simias under GPL,
crossplatform developments (are GUIs obsolete?) the flamewars with the
gnome developers etc etc...KDEs ppl working towards 4.0 (don't forget
the embedded market...)... I am really wandering if these "enlightened
beings" did ever concider which demographics they will target with a
Distro running enlightenment?!!!

Arafat

في ر, 2004-05-19 السّاعة 22:30 -0700, Nadim Shaikli كتب:
> --- Abdulaziz Al-Arfaj <alarfaj0 at yahoo dot com> wrote:
> > I attended the Lebanese LUG meeting today, and I must
> > say I was quite impressed. I saw a group of people
> > each of whom had a rainbow of skills. They also seem
> > to be uber-efficient and _extremely_ organized.
> > Attendance was also quite robust (I counted 21 heads).
> 
> Great, we need to get some of those eager beavers to help us out :-)
> 
> > I was asked to speak a little about Arabeyes :) and
> > tried to give them the gist. They were pretty
> > impressed when I mentioned that Mandrake was 100%
> > Arabized and Fedora will be 100% Arabized by the next
> > release, and they were more impressed when I mentioned
> > we hope to have a fully Arabized gnome 2.8 :)
> 
> I hope you also stressed to them that the translation effort(s) are
> but a "part" or arabeyes and is not its sole main focus (I'm saying
> this knowing full-well that you did, but its a mental reminder :-)
> Development, documentation, HOWTOs, etc, etc might need a plug.
> 
> > In short I was unable to provide them with all the
> > necessary information on the spot, but they said they
> > needed an outline, an integrator's guide if you will,
> > of what you should do to get a live CD to support
> > Arabic out of the box. I assume this involves a lot
> > more than just installing whatever's necessary to run
> > the setxkbmap command :). If anyone can help me write
> > this integrator's guide that would be peachy... No
> > rush, since its still early days, but don't puff up
> > your pillows either!
> 
> Here here - we've asked and needed this for a long time.  Part of
> Arabbix's mission was to bring that forth (believe it or not Arabbix's
> first/main goal was to bring about a collective knowledge to dispense
> amongst ourselves and those that cared first and foremost and then
> possibly bring about a Arabic distro :-)
> 
> > I notice that the CVS for Arabbix contains almost
> > nothing but a few todos and readmes. Where's all the
> > guts of the thing? Its better to let others who want
> > to create a distro to model it after ours, instead of
> > reinventing the wheel.
> 
> I know I'll get in trouble here for saying this :-) but we've asked
> a number of times and the reply has been go read Morphix's docs and
> you'll get 80-90% of the needed knowledge (the quote will remain
> anonymous :-)  With that said, the argument that I continue to put
> forth for the _need_ for this document is if the person(s) working
> on Arabbix were sent to the SouthPole (or went there on vacation
> and got stranded) we should NOT have to relearn anything.  The doc
> should outline all the steps needed so that if the person vanishes
> no time hit is attained.  The steps that I'm talking about are beyond
> those spelled out on morphix's site.  So in short - I am ALL for it
> and would again call for Arabbix's CVS to be populated with all related
> steps, docs and instructions.
> 
> Just my $0.02's worth
> 
> BTW: you might want to tell the .lb LUG to look into fvwm (fvwm.org)
>      for something that in fact support Arabic and is very lightweight
>      in lieu/addition to Enlightenment (which doesn't do Arabic AFAIK).
> 
> Salam.
> 
>  - Nadim
> 
> 
> 
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