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Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
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- Subject: Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- From: Meor Ridzuan Meor Yahaya <meor dot ridzuan at gmail dot com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:59:14 +0800
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Greg,
Sure is fun reading your post. Although, I'm not sure I fully
understand what you are trying to say ...
So, here goes ...
So, not all final dotless yeh with small alef is an alef maksura. So,
it is not easily distinguishable between alef maksura and dotless yeh
in it's final form. For example, the word ila or ala are not alef
maksura, even tough in the mushaf, sometimes it is written with small
alef. So, I would propose to do something like this:
1. The usage of 649 in it's final form should always represent alef
maqsura, so we can easily look for it. For other dotless final yeh, we
can use farsi yeh for it, or even 64A, with a Locale system attach to
it. But for now, maybe we can keep it as Farsi yeh.
2. 626 should be used. This will make it easier and more
understandable, because we know what 626 is. If we encode it as 649 +
hamza above/below, someone might mistakenly think the 649 is alef
maksura, which in this case, definately not.
3. Now, we are left with dotless yeh with small alef in the initial
and medial form. From previous mail, the suggestion was to use 649 +
670. Of course, visually, it is easy to tell that this is not alef
maksura, but rather a dotless yeh serve as the chair for small alef.
However, to develop an algorithm to search for it, it is not as
easy/straight forward. I think that is why someone was sugesting to
me to use dotless ba instead of 649. Any suggestion?
Anyway, to make no 1 happen, I need to have some word list initially
so that I can look for the word, and make the necessary changes.
First, I probaly change all final yeh (of course, all are dotless) to
farsi yeh ATM, then change the necessary word to use 649. After that
being done, maybe all occurance of yeh can/should be change to Farsi
yeh, just to make it consistent. For no 2, should not be a problem for
me to change all. Just need to work on no 3. Maybe at the moment, I
can go ahead with dotless ba. Later, if someone can come up with a
better solution, I can change it back. This will be easy because there
is no other use of dotless ba anywhere.
Any comments?
Regards.
- References:
- Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- From: Meor Ridzuan Meor Yahaya
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- From: Meor Ridzuan Meor Yahaya
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- From: Meor Ridzuan Meor Yahaya
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba
- From: Meor Ridzuan Meor Yahaya
- Re: Questions about yeh, hamzah on yeh, alef maksura and dotless ba