Re: Volunteers, Unicode, previous examples and things

["Mete Kural" <metek at touchtonecorp dot com>]

Salaamun Aleykum Abdalla,

I don't know where this topic came from but it is very interesting. I just wanted to share some articles that on the internet on the numerical inimitability of the Quran. It is quite incredible indeed:

http://www.mucizeler.com/ing/mmwh/index.htm
http://19.org/index.php?id=14,246,0,0,1,0

Abdalla, can you send me the resources that you are aware of in regards to this "Numerical Inimitability" sub-branch of Sciences of the Quran?

Thank you,
Mete

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From: Abdalla Alothman <abdalla at pheye dot net>
Reply-To: General Arabization Discussion <general at arabeyes dot org>
Date:  Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:09:19 +0300

>Asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullaah (Peace)
>
>On Thursday 30 June 2005 23:29, Julie Devall wrote:
>> Dear Mr. Alothman and all
>>
>> I didn't mean to be insensitive to the nature of Quran, pardon my ignorance
>> of this.
>
>The issue is a little bit subtle, and many Muslims tend to get confused with
>it. I learned to distinguish between the MuSHaf and the Quran three years ago
>only. I'm 35 years old, by the way :)
>
>> Just wondering, what sorts of functions will people want from this encoding
>> of the Quran?
>
>A lot of functions. There are indeed a lot of patterns inside the Quran
>that could to be dug out. I say this not out of speculation, but a humble
>experience.
>
>The development of software is a very flexible process that requires
>a thorough understanding of the discipline the software is trying to
>serve. If the software solves problems related to accounting, a great
>deal of accounting knowledge needs to be studied.
>
>When it comes to the Quran, the Quran is backed up with an intensive
>discipline called "The Sciences of the Quran."  This science includes
>other disciplines as well such as  logic, grammar, exegesis and so on.
>In addition to the disciplines, the Sciences of the Quran include more
>than one branch. The inimitability, is an example of a branch that includes
>several sub-branches of which the numerical inimitability is one. An example
>of the numerical inimitability is the aaya that says:
>
>[Quran 3:59] Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allâh is the
>likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!"
>- and he was.
>
>Recently, researchers found that this likeness carries more than one face:
>The word Jesus appears in the Quran 25 times, and so does the word "Adam."
>
>I have a set of classes that I made in the near past -- with the help and
>guidance of some of my brothers -- that applies simple mathematical routines
>on the Quran.
>
>The latest was permutating over the letters that appear on some suras (Alif
>Laam Meem: Surat Albaqara <#2>, Surat Aal Imraan <#3>, Surat Luqmaan <#31> etc.,
>Haa Meem: Surat Aldukhan <#45>, Surat Alzukhruf <#43>, etc.
>Kaaf Ha Ya 'Ayn Saad: Surat Maryam, #19.
>Alif Laam Meem Saad
>Alif Laam Ra
>Alif Lam Meem Ra
>Ya Seen
>Taa Haa
>etc.
>
>The idea was to permutate (a very consumable computational operation) and
>go through the results searching for meaningful words or phrases. The results
>were amazing, but might be misleading. Because the operation consumes a lot
>of computer power, the results are also incomplete. It's just an attempt that
>could be improved by holding some letters as constants as suggested by a dear
>brother; This would reduce the amount of time and produce entries for each
>set of constant letters.
>
>As for "encoding" the Quran, I think a great effort by many people, including
>Arabeyes, has been made, and it needs to be appreciated. I think very little
>work needs to be done just to have a complete standard.
>
>Wishing you and your family peace and good health.
>
>Salam,
>Abdalla Alothman
>
>
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