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Re: Lebanese LUG meeting breakdown



--- Abdulaziz Al-Arfaj <alarfaj0 at yahoo dot com> wrote:
> I attended the Lebanese LUG meeting today, and I must
> say I was quite impressed. I saw a group of people
> each of whom had a rainbow of skills. They also seem
> to be uber-efficient and _extremely_ organized.
> Attendance was also quite robust (I counted 21 heads).

Great, we need to get some of those eager beavers to help us out :-)

> I was asked to speak a little about Arabeyes :) and
> tried to give them the gist. They were pretty
> impressed when I mentioned that Mandrake was 100%
> Arabized and Fedora will be 100% Arabized by the next
> release, and they were more impressed when I mentioned
> we hope to have a fully Arabized gnome 2.8 :)

I hope you also stressed to them that the translation effort(s) are
but a "part" or arabeyes and is not its sole main focus (I'm saying
this knowing full-well that you did, but its a mental reminder :-)
Development, documentation, HOWTOs, etc, etc might need a plug.

> In short I was unable to provide them with all the
> necessary information on the spot, but they said they
> needed an outline, an integrator's guide if you will,
> of what you should do to get a live CD to support
> Arabic out of the box. I assume this involves a lot
> more than just installing whatever's necessary to run
> the setxkbmap command :). If anyone can help me write
> this integrator's guide that would be peachy... No
> rush, since its still early days, but don't puff up
> your pillows either!

Here here - we've asked and needed this for a long time.  Part of
Arabbix's mission was to bring that forth (believe it or not Arabbix's
first/main goal was to bring about a collective knowledge to dispense
amongst ourselves and those that cared first and foremost and then
possibly bring about a Arabic distro :-)

> I notice that the CVS for Arabbix contains almost
> nothing but a few todos and readmes. Where's all the
> guts of the thing? Its better to let others who want
> to create a distro to model it after ours, instead of
> reinventing the wheel.

I know I'll get in trouble here for saying this :-) but we've asked
a number of times and the reply has been go read Morphix's docs and
you'll get 80-90% of the needed knowledge (the quote will remain
anonymous :-)  With that said, the argument that I continue to put
forth for the _need_ for this document is if the person(s) working
on Arabbix were sent to the SouthPole (or went there on vacation
and got stranded) we should NOT have to relearn anything.  The doc
should outline all the steps needed so that if the person vanishes
no time hit is attained.  The steps that I'm talking about are beyond
those spelled out on morphix's site.  So in short - I am ALL for it
and would again call for Arabbix's CVS to be populated with all related
steps, docs and instructions.

Just my $0.02's worth

BTW: you might want to tell the .lb LUG to look into fvwm (fvwm.org)
     for something that in fact support Arabic and is very lightweight
     in lieu/addition to Enlightenment (which doesn't do Arabic AFAIK).

Salam.

 - Nadim



	
		
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