Re: Standalone Superscript Alef (Item 8)

[Mohammed Yousif <mhdyousif at gmx dot net>]

On ثلاثاء 15 يونيو 2004 20:31, Mete Kural wrote:
> Salaam Mohammed,
>
> I am seperating these discussions into seperate
> threads for better organization. This is the
> superscript alef thread.
>
> >  Mete, I agree with Nadim that we need some time,
> > but please at least comment
> >  on Item 8, your suggestion regarding it (to
> > recognize it by a fatha) won't
> >  work at all because all of them has fatha preceding
> > it.
> >  Please comment on this one, then give us some more
> > time.
> >  If you have a suggestion other than using a fatha
> > to trigger the new
> >  contextual behavior, then I would like to hear it.
>
> Regarding this topic, in your earlier email you wrote:
>
> <<"This is won't work, simply because a small alef is
> essentially an alef and _MUST_ be preceded by a fatha
> in ALL cases, there is no single exception to this,
> this is SO basic and fundamental rule in Arabic.
> Whether in the Qur'an or in a regular text it is the
> same, alef MUST be preceded by a fatha and when the
> fatha is not written explicitly, it's implied. This is
> because Alef is a Madd letter, and you must have a
> haraka to lengthen it with the Alef (Alef is used to
> lengthen fatha, Yeh is used to lengthen kasra and Waw
> is used to lengthen damma). This applies to the Alef
> 0627 and the Alef Madd 0622. The small alef is used
> instead of the Alef 0627 but when a madda is added on
> top of that small alef, it becomes Small Alef Madd">>
>
> This is not true. In an earlier email Tom sent a list
> of Qur'anic words where superscript alif stands by
> itself on waw, moreover, it also stands by itself on
> yaa'-without-dots.
>

  again wrong, the alef is not on the Waw at all, it is before
  it (I can give you scans if you want).

 Logically it cannot be on the Waw at all, it's a small letter using
 instead of the missing Alef, would you put the alef on the waw?

-- 
Mohammed Yousif
Egypt