Re: do we need any arabeyes ?

[Arafat Medini <lumina at silverpen dot de>]

Salam all,

Yeah that was the responce I was looking for, I am sure that we need to
discuss our present situation to improve and yes we need to make this
discussion in light of recent developments cz we aren't floating in the
air we are a PART of that region of that reality. And everything has to
be discussed in light of our project to see where we are, to see what we
are, and to see where we want to go.
I hope more messages will be sent.

cheers



Am Son, 2003-04-13 um 14.06 schrieb burkan burkan:
> salam.
> i'm one of those 144 people, i'd like to help you(us) but my problems are:
> -my level of english, i'm not very well in english.
> -I work (8 h) and study (5 h) every days, so i haven't much time.
> but i'm always in contact with arabeyes, i'm using katoob, and other 
> programs. so we need it. i encourage you and go on.
> 
> salam. burkan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Nadim Shaikli <shaikli at yahoo dot com>
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> >--- Arafat Medini <lumina silverpen de> wrote:
> > > with our political situation right now and the whole situation of the
> > > Arab world, a question arises on which I want to hear some discussion
> > > some arguments that really convince and some interesting reads. Do you
> > > really think that our work helps the Arabs in any way? Do you really
> > > think that our project will become a success? The resources are very
> > > narrow the people are not present and the Arabic culture is heavily
> > > using foreign languages for technical work, the arabs don't even now
> > > what liberty is to understand what liberty of choice or open sourced
> > > apps are, and hoping alone rally doesn't help much. what do you think?
> >
> >Arafat, your questioning is most likely based on the recent world news.
> >Its understandable to be sad/confused/happy/worried/hyperventilated/hungry
> >among other things :-) but what is serious here is to question what has
> >happened to us Arabs in general (I'm talking with regard to Arabeyes, but
> >it can be extrapolated to other things).  What will it take for us to
> >finally become active as we once were.  I contend that we need to fist-slap
> >our own faces to WAKE-UP to realize we have things we need to do and things
> >we need to accomplish.  This feeling of helplessness and indifference _is_
> >in itself defeat and there is no reason to be defeated - hope and work go
> >hand-in-hand.
> >
> >Case in point - this mailing-list has in excess of 150 people on it (yup,
> >150).  We see at most 5-6 active people posting and actually working and
> >caring.  What worries me and makes my head shake and boils my blood is
> >wanting to know what will it take for the rest 144 people to get off their
> >bums and finally say "Yes, I do indeed need to help and I will make a
> >difference - I WILL DO IT !!".
> >
> >We've been taught (culturally and religiously) to give back to our 
> >community
> >every chance we get - why is that such a difficult concept to comprehend ?
> >
> >As for "is Arabeyes needed - we're all going to be assimilated anyways ?"
> >My answer would be, if you intend to dye your hair blond/pink, wear blue
> >or green eye-contacts, change your name to Hans/Francois/John/Alberto and
> >raise your kids as though they are from Atlantis then its a clear YES.  I
> >love my heritage and will do all I can to keep it alive and to raise my
> >kids by its values and standards.
> >
> > > cheers
> >
> >I'll keep the cheers for later - if you don't mind :-/
> >
> >Wake-up people - make a difference and contribute.
> >
> >Salam.
> >
> >  - Nadim
> >
> >
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