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Re: Proposal for the Basis of a Codepoint ExtensiontoUnicodefortheEncoding of the Quranic Manuscripts
- To: "General Arabization Discussion" <general at arabeyes dot org>
- Subject: Re: Proposal for the Basis of a Codepoint ExtensiontoUnicodefortheEncoding of the Quranic Manuscripts
- From: "Thomas Milo" <t dot milo at chello dot nl>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:02:18 +0200
Point taken. Thanks.
t
Abdulhaq Lynch wrote:
> On Thursday 23 June 2005 07:15, Thomas Milo wrote:
>>> If you are talking about those like yourself and myself, i.e.
>>> interested in arabic and the quran, then I should say that a few
>>> days spent learning the basics of tajweed would provide enormous
>>> benefit to them in terms of understanding the symbols they're
>>> looking at. This applies to arabs and non-arabs alike.
>>
>> Are you saying: "forget linguistic analysis, the Arab (Persian!)
>> scholars worked everything out already?"
>>
>
> No, in fact I'd be very interested to hear what new material there
> was. However, we're talking here about encoding the quran, and as
> indicated, we're only encoding the information that has already been
> encoded.
>
> The information that is already encoded is the textual data + the
> pronounciation guides of the tajweed indicators.
>
> Therefore to ignore the tajweed marks and try and replace them with
> something else (whatever language/science that would be sourced from
> including modern arabic linguistics) would be to throw out the
> semantics of the current encoding. Remember, the current purpose (in
> this forum) of encoding the quran is to encode what we have in our
> hands, that is entirely based on previous and long-standing
> scholarship (from around 233hijri or 1200 years ago, and yes many of
> them were from Persia - Baghdad, Basra etc.) This is the best
> information we have as to how the quran was actually pronounced by
> the prophet (pbuh) and his companions. The chances of the muslims
> abandoning that information, which is trusted, for something deduced
> from speculation by modern sources, is so close to zero as to
> negligible.
>
> If Gregg reads this then perhaps he could indicate some of the more
> advanced and ground-breaking work that is going on in modern study in
> respect of the pronounciation of the quran - I would genuinely be
> very interested.
>
> wassalaam
> abdulhaq
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