Re: I suspend my...

[anmar <anmar at canada dot com>]

Hello Muhammad:

Muhammad Alkarouri wrote:
>  --- Nadim Shaikli <shaikli at yahoo dot com> wrote: > --- Muhammad Alkarouri
> <malkarouri at yahoo dot co dot uk> wrote:
>
> > [snip snip]
> >
> > > Effectively today, I am suspending my membership in Arabeyes.
> >
> > Did I miss something ?  Why is that ?  If you are busy, then join the
> > club :-) 
>
>
> You did miss something, that I was always in that club:)
I am sorry. But I don't quite follow you

> > else I don't quite understand why someone of you caliber and
> > someone that we fully respect and NEED no less is "leaving" (the same
> > goes to 90% of the people on this list BTW).
>
>
> Theoretically. We don't need developers. We need some people with PhD in
> political sciences, or at least working no less than 5 years working in
> aljazeera.

Hehe... true.. but in our little world, Arabeyes.org is much needed. Our 
children, family and all Arabic speakers needed more than we need it to 
be technical :).
> A person works in a group because the group is more than the sum of its parts.
> A person stays in a group because the group is at least the sum of its members.
> When friction losses become more than production, something is wrong. Add to
> that 'thou shalt' and ..

I would finish your thought by adding " When friction losses become more 
than product, something is wrong. An escalation of the problem, 
identification of the problem and resolution development are the next 
natural steps to this process.

If your piano wheels squeek, add some lubricant and they will go back to 
doing what they need done. Don't just take them out and drag your piano 
on the ground. It would be alot more work.

> > I really hope you reconsider any "leaving" issues.  You can certainly
> > cut-back if you so desire, but leaving is such an ultimate decision
> > that it irks me (whatever that's worth).
I second Nadims request. We all have a life and we have issues and 
problems to deal with.
> Thanks (you know it's worth a lot). Believe me it is not what I like. I have
> spent some energy trying to integrate here. I can reconsider if and when things
> do change. That is not when we use FriBiDi not miniBiDi. That's when we have
> healthy discussions, give enough reasons, get used to benefit from past
> experience of people in the wide Arab community and people in the wide open
> source community, etc. With all due respect, I didn't come to Arabeyes to spend
> my leisure time resolving problems that are already discussed elsewhere.
Then if that how your fell. I strongly you bring you issues forward and 
we can work on them.  If you leave with out giving us the chance to fix 
what is wrong, more people might leave because of what you have 
experienced. I think you owe us this at the laest ?


> And I am not saying I am leaving so as to get my agenda passed. This is exactly
> the way I don't like to pass things.
> I am not stopping open source work, neither stopping being Arab, so we got to
> benefit from one another.
> Probably I owe an apology to Munzir here, as he was the one who convinced me to
> join. Well, it didn't work.

No body said that and I am sure nobody thinks it as well.

> Salam,
> Muhammad Alkarouri
How about a nice Sharma and a cup of tea to talk thing over :)

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